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Cellopop
Senior Member
Username: Curtis
Post Number: 1078
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 01:47 am: | |
Were they playing any music from RObin Hood? |
Kerjun Chang
Junior Member
Username: Kerjun
Post Number: 17
Registered: 02-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 11:41 am: | |
Haha...witty =P
But I think it's the arrow that gets shot up in the air, not thw bow, no?
"If at first you don't succeed, redefine success."
"If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried." :P
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Cellopop
Senior Member
Username: Curtis
Post Number: 1081
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 01:10 pm: | |
That's a different story, Kerjun.
I checked your URL site. Very clever and entertaining. Thanks for sharing that with us. |
olivia
New member
Username: Olivia1337
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 05:16 pm: | |
I just got a new cello recently, and when i pizz everything sounds normal, but when i bow it makes an awful sound. almost like when you try to play without pressing the string down all the way. I have rosined and rosined the crap out of the bow and nothing seems to work. is it the bow? or is something wrong? I assumed that since they are new strings and have only been played 3-4 times that they just need to wear. But I'm really not sure, I have no owned my own cello before. |
Cellopop
Senior Member
Username: Curtis
Post Number: 2425
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 02:51 am: | |
Olivia.
Welcome.
Bowing is difficult. Have you ever played the cello and/or bowed before or are you starting from scratch? Is it a new bow? Does it have genuine horsehair? Is it new rosin and is it actually getting on to ther hair? New rosin should be scuffed a little before application.
Try to mention a little more of your background and experiences and I'm sure someone here will be able to give a few pointers.
All the best. |
Monique Bryson
New member
Username: New_violinist
Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 01:14 am: | |
i recently got a violin of a well know australian site...www.oo.com.au....and my friend got it as well hers makes a sound and i picked mine up, put the bridge in(( as it was unattatched) and tried to play but o sound came out. i put resiin on the bow for half an hour and still no sound and yet my friend who has the exact same violin works, maybe i need more resin but im not sure.... |
Cellopop
Senior Member
Username: Curtis
Post Number: 2458
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 08:15 am: | |
Monique.
Welcome. Sorry to here you get no sound.
I've been trying to open the link you posted to see what you bought to no avail.
First, we need to start with a decent quality instrument with a proper set up. Set up needs to be done by an experienced luthier.
Since you told us you had to install the bridge yourself, already, the instrument (unless you have some previous luthier experience) is not properly set up. Violins have a sound post inside them. It is a wooden dowel that is stood up between the top and back plate near the right f hole. This piect transfers sound/vibrations from the bridge to the plates before being tossed to the ear. If it is not standing or if there even is one, forget about sound. Its not happening.
I would bring the violin to a violin shop if you can or at least to someone that has been playing for a while to analyze you problem. A half hour or rosining certainly sounds like enough.
Best of luck and feel free to keep us posted. |
Man
Senior Member
Username: Manwong
Post Number: 1012
Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 09:20 pm: | |
Hi, Monique.
Welcome to the forum.
Sorry to hear, and sorry to have to tell you the bad news, but it sounds like you're probably best off just returning that violin and get one from an actual violin shop instead, whether online or not.
That Australian site (www.oo.com.au) looks like some sort of online variation of K-Mart that's over here in the USA. Definitely not a good place to buy a violin. And I did a search for violin there and only found one that looks like the $50 bargain specials on eBay, except the pictures there don't even show the violin set up remotely close to being playable (even the one where some girl tries to look like she's playing it).
IF you really want to get a violin online, there are far better places than that, including this very site. If money is the issue, you might consider something like a specially priced, used Crescendo from Stringworks -- and maybe they can even work out some payment plan to help out. Give them a call and see. The Stringworks folks are very friendly and helpful (and not pushy in anyway at all).
Hope that helps...
_Man_
Just another amateur learning to paint w/ "the light of the world".
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Cellopop
Senior Member
Username: Curtis
Post Number: 2462
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 06:16 am: | |
I just got that site open.
I would not bother taking that violin to a shop.
Return it.
Bakelite parts?
Its basically a toy that might work.
Don't feel bad. Many of us have been there until we realize what it takes for a stringed instrument to work.
I kind of like to call that the ebay burn.
Man's suggetsions are good ones. If you'd really like to learn how to play the violin, you need to start with a properly set up instrument from a reputable shop.
all the best. |
Myles_H
Senior Member
Username: Great_mazinga
Post Number: 221
Registered: 08-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 10:50 am: | |
This pic is great. http://www.oo.com.au/prod/MUCA008/6b.jpg
No bridge, and look at that bow hold, angle, and left hand! My teacher would kick me in the teeth if I tried that business!
This line from the product description has to be the best misrepresentation I've ever read. "The violin is one of the most user-friendly musical instruments."
However, if by "most user-friendly" they meant "most difficult", then I would have to agree. |
Sphere
Advanced Member
Username: Sphere
Post Number: 87
Registered: 03-2007
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:27 am: | |
Monique, take it back to whence it came. This is a classic example of the VSO (Violin Shaped Object). This is not a violin. |
Myles_H
Senior Member
Username: Great_mazinga
Post Number: 222
Registered: 08-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 12:49 pm: | |
What the crap is bakelite?! Is that marketing speak for plastic?  |
Michael Dowling
New member
Username: Brooklyn3
Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 01:07 pm: | |
I agree with the others Monique, you got yourself a VSO (violin shaped object) either rent (very affordable and rental fees go towards the purchase of an instrument) or open your wallet a bit more and get yourself a violin that will sound respectable. Learning the violin is difficult enough, don't handcuff yourself right off the bat by learning on an instrument that Joshua Bell couldn't make sound good. |
Cellopop
Senior Member
Username: Curtis
Post Number: 2466
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 02:53 pm: | |
Yes Myles.
Bakelite (which here in the US don't really use any more, is a plastic that was used in antiquated electronics as a sheilding product. Basically another form of plastic. |
Don Crandall
Member
Username: Mr_c
Post Number: 33
Registered: 03-2008
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 01:07 pm: | |
I don't agree with roughing up the rosin. There are micro hairs on the bow hairs that can be messed up by doing that. Once the bow has a base coat of rosin on it an occasional replenishment is all that is needed. One smooth even stroke down, one up, then one final one down should be sufficient. An occasional touch up at the ends may be needed. If the bow is not holding rosin then it may be time to rehair. There should be just enough rosin on the bow to make a clean stacatto sound and pull smooth and evenly when playing very softly. Too much or too little will give you odd results. Good luck. |
Jenny
Junior Member
Username: Jennyk
Post Number: 15
Registered: 12-2007
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 09:16 pm: | |
Or...you could just sell the Bakelite parts...apparently they're collectors' items:
http://www.worldint.com/science/bakelite.html
Awesome! |
Man
Senior Member
Username: Manwong
Post Number: 1041
Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 04:23 pm: | |
Now, now, guys (and gals  ). I hope we haven't scared off, embarrassed or offended Monique. 
Monique,
If you're still checking this forum, please do let us know if we can help you further w/ your desire to learn the violin (and maybe pick a better one for your needs)...
_Man_
Just another amateur learning to paint w/ "the light of the world".
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Cellopop
Senior Member
Username: Curtis
Post Number: 2509
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 04:33 pm: | |
I don't scratch rosin up with a key. That seems a little harsh a could lead to some chipping. I think a rub or 2 on a hard, light rosin with some extra fine emory paper is ok. Usually, the softer dark rosin roughs up enough with just the bow hair as Don points out. Hill dark or Kolstein never needs to be roughed up. They're soft enough. |
Mary Jo Hassell
New member
Username: Mary_jo
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2010
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 10:48 am: | |
hi everyone,
my parents bought me a cello for christmas and i havent played in a while, but when i got it in december, it sounded very good. I went to play it today and the a string was literally sitting on the lower part of the fingerboard, which is a bproblem. Ive tried everything and i cant get it to sit further away from the board,. It is strung correctly. if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. thanks alot  |
TK
Senior Member
Username: Lifeisgood
Post Number: 606
Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:05 am: | |
Hello Mary Jo. It sounds like your A string came unwound and needs to be retightened and retuned. If you are not comfortable doing this yourself I suggest you take it to your teacher or a music store and ask them to do it for you. |
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